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2016 Queen's Women's X-Country

Queen's Women's Cross Country
2016 CIS Silver Medalists

Produced By:
Gavin Hathaway & Matt Corolis
Posted 8 months ago by Trackie | Source: Gavin Hathaway & Matt Corolis

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  • bestcoach User since:
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    BestCoach said 8 months ago

    10/10 video
    Who would not want to join that team with those smiles?
    They make it look pretty enjoyable being a part of that squad.
    Great job to the ladies and whoever produced this film.

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  • kinrunner User since:
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    KinRunner said 8 months ago

    This was produced by our Men's Captain Gavin and Mid d runner Matt C. in 2 days none the less, they did an amazing job!

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    CrazyRunningKid said 8 months ago

    Exceptionnel, bravo

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    Anonymous said 8 months ago

    Very good video. Good luck Queen's.

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    Kevin Coffey said 8 months ago

    Solid video.

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    Peter said 8 months ago

    This was the best video ever. Great choreographing the music and the filming. I would hire these guys tomorrow.

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  • bestcoach User since:
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    BestCoach said 8 months ago

    Other OUA teams don't want this thing going viral :)

    people are going to think running for Oldster is fun!

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    WOW said 8 months ago

    Wow, for all the hate Oldster gets his team sure does enjoy being coached by him and his assistant. If my daughter ever is good enough to run in university I know Queen's will be the top choice.

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    Anonymous said 8 months ago

    You know this is a promotional video, right? Did you expect them to say they hated running for him?

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    WOW said 8 months ago

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    "You know this is a promotional video, right? Did you expect them to say they hated running for him?"


    No but from body language and how genuinely happy they are one can easily see they must enjoy running for him and Queen's.

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  • bestcoach User since:
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    BestCoach said 8 months ago

    Watch it again with your sound turned off.

    Quoting: Anonymous
    "You know this is a promotional video, right? Did you expect them to say they hated running for him?"

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    Anonymous said 8 months ago

    It's a bunch of university kids having a good time doing a video

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    benjaminburr said 8 months ago

    Quoting: BestCoach
    "Other OUA teams don't want this thing going viral :)

    people are going to think running for Oldster is fun!"


    Running for Oldster is fun. I enjoyed it and felt like it helped keep me in the sport and improve a bunch. I worked with him for a while by email. He's very helpful and knowledgeable, and his training program makes sense. I found him easy to get along with in person. He doesn't tolerate nonsense, but I think that can be a really good trait for a coach to have, as long as you're not the one spewing nonsense, in which case you might clash. It's that trait that people on message boards seem to latch onto to form their opinion of him without knowing anything else about him. I honestly disliked him a bit back in the day on the TnFNorth boards, before I knew who he was. I think it's funny now.

    10/10, would be coached by Oldster again.

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    BestCoach said 8 months ago

    Actually it's a small group of women who are enjoying the journey.
    Look deeper my friend.

    Quoting: Anonymous
    "It's a bunch of university kids having a good time doing a video"

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    Body Language said 8 months ago

    Quoting: Anonymous
    "You know this is a promotional video, right? Did you expect them to say they hated running for him?"


    I agree, it's obviously a promotional video. I also agree that body language speaks volumes. BestCoach hit the nail on the head, watch it with the volume turned off! Those are some happy and content athletes. You can't fake that. I've seen athletes (females in particular) come home from their NCAA schools and put on a brave face and say everything is great, but they can't fake that for long either. Their body language and expressions tell the tale.....that NCAA programs are chewing up and spitting out some of our top high school athletes (again, women in particular).

    I think it is becoming more apparent with each passing year that CIS (I mean USports) programs are a solid, and often the best, option for these girls! And I'd say Queen's should be at the top of that list!!! Great season ladies. Looking forward to seeing what you can do next year.

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    Anonymous said 8 months ago

    If Oldster was the head coach at AC that would solve a lot of our inequality in race distances and team selection issues. We need an athlete centered governing body for the sport and someone who has/is a top runner, and a practicing successful coach would be best.

    The way things are going at some point the majority of the women runners on the national team will be his athletes.

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    Oldster said 8 months ago

    I'm no expert in "fun", but I will say this: Everyone has much more of it when they are achieving more of their athletic potential, which these girls did this fall. These smiles were well earned!

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    benjaminburr said 8 months ago

    Quoting: Anonymous
    "If Oldster was the head coach at AC that would solve a lot of our inequality in race distances and team selection issues. We need an athlete centered governing body for the sport and someone who has/is a top runner, and a practicing successful coach would be best.

    The way things are going at some point the majority of the women runners on the national team will be his athletes."


    I'm not sure I agree with some of this. We do need an athlete-focused governing body. The sport is nothing without the athletes. However, the head coach is an administrator, not a coach. I think being head coach would be frustrating for a coach, and I think having a currently-practicing coach would introduce potential for bias that is better left out of things like team selection. The adminstration needs to do what's best for the athletes, long term and irrespective of age, gender, or protected class, definitely. So they need to be impartial and not tied to a specific club or team. There aren't many coaches, if any at all, who could dissociate themselves from their own athletes enough to be impartial.

    Edit: So I don't think Steve would be the correct choice.

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    Troll Takahashi said 8 months ago

    Quoting: Oldster
    "I'm no expert in "fun", but I will say this: Everyone has much more of it when they are achieving more of their athletic potential, which these girls did this fall. These smiles were well earned!"


    Hey Oldster,

    You still haven't emailed me about living in your house now that the kids are away, so you can train me for my comeback. 4 years under you, and I can win a National XC Title in my 30's just like Gollish did. I still have full eligibility for Uni, so if you can have me run 28minutes for 10k in 4-5 years, I'll show the entire country who the boss is.
    You'd be surprised by my work effort.

    Or

    I can continue coaching kids and fascinate about the potential TEAC, all while annoying you and countless others with everything I type on Trackie?

    Either way I will earn my smile.
    Offer still stands.
    Hope to hear from you!

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    Anonymous said 8 months ago

    Quoting: Troll Takahashi
    "Hey Oldster,

    You still haven't emailed me about living in your house now that the kids are away, so you can train me for my comeback. 4 years under you, and I can win a National XC Title in my 30's just like Gollish did. I still have full eligibility for Uni, so if you can have me run 28minutes for 10k in 4-5 years, I'll show the entire country who the boss is.
    You'd be surprised by my work effort.

    Or

    I can continue coaching kids and fascinate about the potential TEAC, all while annoying you and countless others with everything I type on Trackie?

    Either way I will earn my smile.
    Offer still stands.
    Hope to hear from you!"


    Why do you expect special treatment. Do like everyone else and apply to Queens. Then show up at the first tryout. You know he will give you every opportunity to succeed.

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    Anonymous said 8 months ago

    It would be fascinating to have cameras on the action
    Big Troll instead of Big Brother?

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  • bestcoach User since:
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    BestCoach said 8 months ago

    His title is coach not babysitter.

    apply to Queens, take 2 classes and try out for the team.

    #nuffsaid

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  • kinrunner User since:
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    KinRunner said 8 months ago

    Hey Troll, how about you don't derail this thread as well, and leave it about celebrating the girls team, their success this year, and a promotion of their hard-work and dedication to get to this point, most all of these girls weren't recruited, have worked their tails off to make our squad and get this team to where it is now. lets just leave it at that!

    If Boyd didn't email you back, leave it alone, or apply to Queen's get OSAP- you say you don't make much, so i'm sure you'll get OSAP, heck maybe even some second career money! Run entry standard show up and join the team.

    Since your plan is go good, train your self get good and show us all how wrong we are about your training methods!

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    Buddster said 8 months ago

    The video is great and the team seems to have really enjoyed the season, nice job all around. It does feel like a recruiting video, and a good one at that - it's a good tool to expose potential recruits to entice them into what looks to be a very good program. My only question - Is that the track at Queens?

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    KinRunner said 8 months ago

    Quoting: Buddster
    "The video is great and the team seems to have really enjoyed the season, nice job all around. It does feel like a recruiting video, and a good one at that - it's a good tool to expose potential recruits to entice them into what looks to be a very good program. My only question - Is that the track at Queens?"



    Thanks, and it is meant partially as a recruiting video! That is the old horse track with fine crushed gravel that we use during the xc season from time to time. We have a 400m track off campus and use RMC indoor track in the winter!

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    Anonymous said 8 months ago

    @ Troll

    Good runner doesnt always = good coach
    and
    Good coach doesnt always = good runner

    Many past athletes that turn coach make a huge mistake of coaching the way they were coached and generalising their approach. "It make me a 30min 10k runner, so it should do the same for you." Coaching, as much as you are working with a team and you obviously cant have 13 workouts for 13 runners each practice, you need to have the approach to treat each of those 13 athletes differently. That could mean completing a variation/portion of the workout, faster or slower targets, less/more rest. Coaches aren't successful because they were good runners in their time, they are successful because they become students to being a coach and truly learn how to work with their athletes.

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    Anonymous said 8 months ago

    An administrator who calls himself a coach isn't a good situation either.

    The best coaches have "been there and done that". They've experienced the training and racing they are asking their athletes to do. Some of the "coaches" (More accurate description = poor administrators with little understanding of the sport) cause a lot of damage to athletes.

    Without understanding gained through personal sweat and years of experience in the sport you get funding decisions like the fiasco we see with some of our top distance runners now. It's too easy for administrators to casually deny funding. On the other hand someone with a personal appreciation for what these great athletes have accomplished through years of training would find a way to fund them.

    The current funding culture is one of diminishment that focuses on deficiency based on artificial point scoring. It's an unfair process of cutting athletes off from funding. If a current national record holder (time run in the last few years), recent Olympian and reigning national cross champion is denied funding the system is broken.

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    BUMP said 1 month ago

    Just saw this what an amazing group.

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    Anonymous said 1 month ago

    Quoting: BUMP
    "Just saw this what an amazing group."


    Couldn't agree more! Hats off to the whole group - athletes and coaches!!

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    Anonymous said 1 month ago

    what are the entry standards for the girls team ? thx

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