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Posts: 57354Anonymous said 3 years ago
Why is a Youth athlete allowed to break AC rules and run 2 age groups up and compete at Sen Nationals?
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Posts: 153????? said 3 years ago
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"Why is a Youth athlete allowed to break AC rules and run 2 age groups up and compete at Sen Nationals?"
what rule says you cant run up age categories? Quote comment -
Anonymous
Posts: 57354More info needed said 3 years ago
Here is the rule in question.
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Athletes may compete a maximum of one age category up at Athletics Canada National Championships. For example, Youth aged athletes may move up and compete in National Junior Championships and Junior aged athletes may move up and compete in National Championships. -
Anonymous
Posts: 57354Anonymous said 3 years ago
AC Rule 86e:
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Athletes may compete a maximum of one age category up at Athletics Canada National Championships. For example, youth aged athletes (U18) may move up and compete in the National Junior Championships (U20), while junior aged athletes may move up and compete in an Open National Championships. -
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Anonymous
Posts: 57354Anonymous said 3 years ago
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"AC Rule 86e:
Athletes may compete a maximum of one age category up at Athletics Canada National Championships. For example, youth aged athletes (U18) may move up and compete in the National Junior Championships (U20), while junior aged athletes may move up and compete in an Open National Championships."
If I had the ninth place athlete in the 800m, I would have been quoting this to the officials... a U18 athlete can only run as a U20, not as an Open. Quote comment -
Anonymous
Posts: 57354Anonymous#10,000 said 3 years ago
So....THIS is what we are going to talk about as the Nationals get underway?
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Posts: 52Nurmi said 3 years ago
I would think the spirit of the rule is meant to avoid having lots of kids who are not ready competing in the senior/open category. Abdullahi showed yesterday (and I'm sure will repeat today) that he belongs in there. I would not be surprised to see him in the top 5, maybe even the podium. We should celebrate this, rather than try to take the rulebook as a weapon to beat on a kid that just happens to be wonderful news for Canadian mid distance running.
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Posts: 57354Anonymous said 3 years ago
Quoting: Nurmi
"I would think the spirit of the rule is meant to avoid having lots of kids who are not ready competing in the senior/open category. Abdullahi showed yesterday (and I'm sure will repeat today) that he belongs in there. I would not be surprised to see him in the top 5, maybe even the podium. We should celebrate this, rather than try to take the rulebook as a weapon to beat on a kid that just happens to be wonderful news for Canadian mid distance running."
Rules are rules you can't selectively apply them to some athletes and bend them for others. Quote comment -
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Posts: 1267Lobster said 3 years ago
Quoting: Nurmi
"I would think the spirit of the rule is meant to avoid having lots of kids who are not ready competing in the senior/open category. Abdullahi showed yesterday (and I'm sure will repeat today) that he belongs in there. I would not be surprised to see him in the top 5, maybe even the podium. We should celebrate this, rather than try to take the rulebook as a weapon to beat on a kid that just happens to be wonderful news for Canadian mid distance running."
I agree with Nurmi. That sounds like a very officious attitude. Quote comment -
Anonymous
Posts: 57354Anonymous said 3 years ago
Quoting: Nurmi
"I would think the spirit of the rule is meant to avoid having lots of kids who are not ready competing in the senior/open category. Abdullahi showed yesterday (and I'm sure will repeat today) that he belongs in there. I would not be surprised to see him in the top 5, maybe even the podium. We should celebrate this, rather than try to take the rulebook as a weapon to beat on a kid that just happens to be wonderful news for Canadian mid distance running."
underage ran last two years in Ottawa, including AH Quote comment -
Anonymous
Posts: 57354Anonymous said 3 years ago
Quoting: Nurmi
"I would think the spirit of the rule is meant to avoid having lots of kids who are not ready competing in the senior/open category. Abdullahi showed yesterday (and I'm sure will repeat today) that he belongs in there. I would not be surprised to see him in the top 5, maybe even the podium. We should celebrate this, rather than try to take the rulebook as a weapon to beat on a kid that just happens to be wonderful news for Canadian mid distance running."
Years ago, my athlete competed in the Junior Nationals in 2 events while not even a Youth age. Needed the competition as there was none in his age category. The provincial director "threatened" (as in todays parlay) to Not register a possible provincial record if he did so. No problem, as my athlete ended up in the middle somewhere. It gave him the impetus and springboard as to proceed in his career. Quote comment -
Anonymous
Posts: 57354Alberta Salazar said 3 years ago
Just run faster guys and everything will work out in the end.
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Anonymous
Posts: 57354Anonymous said 3 years ago
It’s a dumb rule that is insulting to coaches. It basically says we are not competent enough to decide where to race our athletes despite standards being in place. Goes against LTAD by prioritizing chronological age over developmental age.
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Anonymous
Posts: 57354Ref. Tony Brothers said 3 years ago
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"What's the rule on stepping on the line in the 100m?"
After official review of the play, it was determined the players foot was out of bounds on the play. Raptors ball. Quote comment -
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Posts: 847NC Blogger said 3 years ago
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"Rules are rules you can't selectively apply them to some athletes and bend them for others."
No, but for every rule there is usually an appeal process and committee that examines the application of rules. Quote comment -
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Mar 27th, 2015
Posts: 64Kempertoo said 3 years ago
World Championship standard is 1.45.80. Might be a bit of a stretch, but who knows. He did run 46 for 400m and a grade 11 kid from Great Britan has run 145 this year.
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Anonymous
Posts: 57354Anonymous said 3 years ago
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"Rules are rules you can't selectively apply them to some athletes and bend them for others."
Well clearly the rule isn’t very important if they are letting him compete now is it?
I will never understand why you people hate on someone for trying to be great. Would you rather see him coast to win U18 or U20? Seriously, you should want the best for our athletes, but now, when our top 800 male prospect tries to push himself you vilify him for it. This culture is disgusting, we should be encouraging him to push himself, not going on about rules that clearly aren’t that important like a second grader complaining about being “butted” in line. If the rule really mattered they wouldn’t have let him in and that’s that; this is pathetic. Quote comment -
Anonymous
Posts: 57354slatery said 3 years ago
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"Why is a Youth athlete allowed to break AC rules and run 2 age groups up and compete at Sen Nationals?"
1:47.59 is why. Quote comment -
Anonymous
Posts: 57354Anonymous said 3 years ago
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"Rules are rules you can't selectively apply them to some athletes and bend them for others."
Are you sure you're not with Ontario Soccer? Quote comment -
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Posts: 57354Track-dude said 3 years ago
Anyone who watched that race knows that it was the right decision for him to be in that race. As a former competitor at the national-level in the 800m...MAD RESPECT is due to this young man, he actually made a move and tried to WIN that race over Brandon McBride with about 200-220m to go....this kid has the mental strength to go somewhere in this sport.
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Anonymous
Posts: 57354Anonymous#10,000 said 3 years ago
19 posts in, Nationals are done tomorrow, and all we seem to want to talk about is this age thing/rule.
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Posts: 1267Lobster said 3 years ago
1:47.59 is a very good reason ! Get over it, whichever “Anonymous” it is.
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Anonymous
Posts: 57354Anonymous said 3 years ago
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"Why is a Youth athlete allowed to break AC rules and run 2 age groups up and compete at Sen Nationals?"
why would anyone actually care if a Youth or younger athlete wants to compete with those at a higher age? At the end of the day, this should be allowed to enhance the quality of competition... the only people who might complain would be coaches or parents of an athlete who might be displaced by a medal or competition spot by the athlete moving up.... to those people I say.... "think about the sport and not your athlete" Quote comment -
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Posts: 57354PerryG said 3 years ago
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"why would anyone actually care if a Youth or younger athlete wants to compete with those at a higher age? At the end of the day, this should be allowed to enhance the quality of competition... the only people who might complain would be coaches or parents of an athlete who might be displaced by a medal or competition spot by the athlete moving up.... to those people I say.... "think about the sport and not your athlete""
I also don't know what the fuss is all about. People weren't complaining when Debbie Brill won the Pan Pacs back in 1969 at the age of 16 or Glenda Reiser breaking the world record in the 1500 metres in a heat at the Munich Olympics and she was just 17. Abby Hoffman was 15 when she competed in her first Commonwealth Games back in 1962 and a year later won the 800 metres at the Pan Am Games at 16. Nancy McCredie was just 18 when she won both the shot put and discus throw at the 1963 Pan Am Games. Those are the ones I can remember! Quote comment
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