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Anonymous said 1 week ago

Age in Usports

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    Anonymous said 5 days ago

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    "I guess you haven’t heard of grad school..."


    If you are using athletics to fund grad school it clearly means you were not successful enough previously to pay for school. (Or obtain reasearch or industry funding for your study yourself).

    Generally if you are “winning” in your career you don’t feel the need to go back to school to advance/change you career

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    LSM said 2 days ago

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    "I guess you haven’t heard of grad school..."


    I'm going to guess by the name and the cynicism that they are a grad student themselves.

    And no one is discussing an important addendum to a prospective age restriction: At what age do we open the field back up to athletes who have hit their age " peak" and are now in decline?

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    Anonymous said 2 days ago

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    "If you are using athletics to fund grad school it clearly means you were not successful enough previously to pay for school. (Or obtain reasearch or industry funding for your study yourself).

    Generally if you are “winning” in your career you don’t feel the need to go back to school to advance/change you career"


    This is one of the rudest posts I've ever read on this forum.

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    Anonymous said 2 days ago

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    "If you are using athletics to fund grad school it clearly means you were not successful enough previously to pay for school. (Or obtain reasearch or industry funding for your study yourself).

    Generally if you are “winning” in your career you don’t feel the need to go back to school to advance/change you career"


    Why do so many people around here think that racing in USports is that way to make money?? I doubt anyone is racing USports to fund grad school.

    You seem to have an incredibly narrow minded view of things. Maybe you should go back to school and pay attention to some of the classes this time.

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    Anon said 16 hours ago

    The argument for an age limit is pretty simple. In Europe, U23 competition is a big deal: making the U23 Euro Track Championships is considered a major accomplishment, and countries like the UK have a national U23 championship. Having this system helps bridge the gap between junior and senior levels of competition.

    Here, we don't really have a serious U23 system (aside from NACAC, which doesn't carry anything near the prestige of Euro U23s). U Sports basically fills that gap in Canada. It gives a 22-year-old who may not be ready to win at the senior level the experience of gunning for a national championship.

    Personally, I think the age cap for U Sports should be around 25. If you're older than that, there are tons of other competitive opportunities out there, including many of the same meets run by the U Sports crowd. If you're a high-level runner over 25, gun for national senior championships.

    Contrary to what people claim, having an age cap wouldn't significantly affect the competition level of U Sports, since there aren't many U Sports athletes over 25 to begin with. What it would do, though, is keep some of our top up-and-coming talent from being deprived of the valuable experience of winning a national title by much older athletes.

    TL;DR version: If we think of U Sports as a development league, then it makes no sense to include people who are no longer really in the developmental category.

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    Anonymous said 15 hours ago

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    "TL;DR version: If we think of U Sports as a development league, then it makes no sense to include people who are no longer really in the developmental category."


    Where in any USports documentation does it say anything about their purpose being a 'development league'?

    Just because you or other message board posters want to think of it that way doesn't mean USports is going to update their policies or change the way they view their varsity sports.

    (Keep in mind that for other sports like swimming, university aged athletes are often the tops in the country, so that is certainly not a 'development league'.)

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    Oldster said 14 hours ago

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    "The argument for an age limit is pretty simple. In Europe, U23 competition is a big deal: making the U23 Euro Track Championships is considered a major accomplishment, and countries like the UK have a national U23 championship. Having this system helps bridge the gap between junior and senior levels of competition.

    Here, we don't really have a serious U23 system (aside from NACAC, which doesn't carry anything near the prestige of Euro U23s). U Sports basically fills that gap in Canada. It gives a 22-year-old who may not be ready to win at the senior level the experience of gunning for a national championship.

    Personally, I think the age cap for U Sports should be around 25. If you're older than that, there are tons of other competitive opportunities out there, including many of the same meets run by the U Sports crowd. If you're a high-level runner over 25, gun for national senior championships.

    Contrary to what people claim, having an age cap wouldn't significantly affect the competition level of U Sports, since there aren't many U Sports athletes over 25 to begin with. What it would do, though, is keep some of our top up-and-coming talent from being deprived of the valuable experience of winning a national title by much older athletes.

    TL;DR version: If we think of U Sports as a development league, then it makes no sense to include people who are no longer really in the developmental category."


    I would reject the premise inherent in your argument that athlete development among U-23s is negatively impacted by the possibility of losing to an older athlete in a championship. Quite the contrary: Having to beat an older and possibly more accomplished athlete in order to win spurs U23s to be better (Branna and Claire definitely ran much harder and better with Sasha G in the XC field a couple of years ago than they otherwise would have, and not having had the actual win has not make them worse). Our top U23s are highly motivated and competitive. And, when it comes to next-level stuff to aim for, they still have FISU teams. These are age-capped.

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    Brit said 7 hours ago

    I like the British system. No age limits. And also no limits on squad size, or (I believe) number of years of eligibility. So long as you're enrolled to study, you can represent your university.

    Most competitions score A, B, C teams and more (however many a university can put out). The Universities (BUCS) Championship race is restricted to one team per uni, but there's also a "B" race which has no limit on number of teams - some unis have 5 or 6 teams entered.

    It allows everyone to compete, and for the developing athlete ongoing goals to work their way up through the teams until they make the A team.

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    Usport said 4 hours ago

    Given that over 95% of participants are 17-22 years old, USports is inherently a developmental league.

    But if the goal of USports is to create the best competition for student athletes, why limit eligibility? Why limit participation to full-time students?


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    "Where in any USports documentation does it say anything about their purpose being a 'development league'?

    Just because you or other message board posters want to think of it that way doesn't mean USports is going to update their policies or change the way they view their varsity sports.

    (Keep in mind that for other sports like swimming, university aged athletes are often the tops in the country, so that is certainly not a 'development league'.)"

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