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Canadian 10,000m Future

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    Wailord said 2 months ago

    Quoting: Radioactive Rabbit
    "Hahaha I bet all my carrots (from one rabbit to another) you don't really know Sergio. The guy absolutely loves running and loves a good old fashion foot race. He's not afraid to turn up and throw down and has a drive to compete like you've never seen. Mad respect for that guy and the Canadian athletics community is lucky to have such a great person and competitor in the sport."


    And the point you are trying to make is? Since he has such a drive to compete how about I bet all my carrots that Justyn Knight would overlap Sergio in a 10,000m track race.
    Then we will see how unafraid he is. Then we will see if he loves a good old fashion foot race.
    At 8000m his legs will be toast.

    You don't compare a Corvette ZR1 to a Porsche 911 GT2 RS around a track.
    In this case Sergio is the Corvette.

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    MilesDavisAndTheCool said 2 months ago

    Quoting: Wailord
    "And the point you are trying to make is? Since he has such a drive to compete how about I bet all my carrots that Justyn Knight would overlap Sergio in a 10,000m track race.
    Then we will see how unafraid he is. Then we will see if he loves a good old fashion foot race.
    At 8000m his legs will be toast.

    You don't compare a Corvette ZR1 to a Porsche 911 GT2 RS around a track.
    In this case Sergio is the Corvette."


    Paul, don't you have some 12 and under results to review?
    Sergio is good people, and a hell of a competitor, so until you've seen him run, keep the discouraging talk to yourself, k?

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    Buddy said 2 months ago

    Look at the dates, locations and times Sergio has run this May and June compared to Reid.
    he's now the king of back to back racing!
    Dude is a beast. AN UP AND COMING BEAST

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    Buddy said 2 months ago

    you already sleeping on McMaster eh?

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    Wailord said 1 month ago

    Tyler Dozzi is 2 years younger and faster than Sergio over 5000m.
    https://www.iaaf.org/athletes/canada/tyler-dozzi-313539

    Dannatt is also 2 years younger and would beat Sergio from 800m+
    https://www.iaaf.org/athletes/canada/charlie-dannatt-315165

    When you compare Sergio to Ehab El Sandali over 5000m it's a no contest. Ehab 13:52 in April 2018 vs Sergio's 14:18 in May 2018

    https://www.iaaf.org/athletes/canada/ehab-el-sandali-294276

    https://www.iaaf.org/athletes/canada/sergio-raez-villanueva-313089

    Last year Sergio ran 3:48 for 1500m being 2 years removed from Highschool. In 2009 2 Sr. Boys Highschool students ran faster at OFSAA. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-AiKNiZsSgM

    So you guys can keep boosting him while I continue to be a realist.
    Sergio is a very talented athlete, and very respectable, but don't try and hype him so much when you are just talking and not stating anything to defend your arguements. It's great he won a big race. Congrats. Hopefully his success continues.

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    cooperaa said 1 month ago

    Quoting: Wailord
    "Tyler Dozzi is 2 years younger and faster than Sergio over 5000m.
    https://www.iaaf.org/athletes/canada/tyler-dozzi-313539

    Dannatt is also 2 years younger and would beat Sergio from 800m+
    https://www.iaaf.org/athletes/canada/charlie-dannatt-315165

    When you compare Sergio to Ehab El Sandali over 5000m it's a no contest. Ehab 13:52 in April 2018 vs Sergio's 14:18 in May 2018

    https://www.iaaf.org/athletes/canada/ehab-el-sandali-294276

    https://www.iaaf.org/athletes/canada/sergio-raez-villanueva-313089

    Last year Sergio ran 3:48 for 1500m being 2 years removed from Highschool. In 2009 2 Sr. Boys Highschool students ran faster at OFSAA. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-AiKNiZsSgM

    So you guys can keep boosting him while I continue to be a realist.
    Sergio is a very talented athlete, and very respectable, but don't try and hype him so much when you are just talking and not stating anything to defend your arguements. It's great he won a big race. Congrats. Hopefully his success continues."



    Funny; I thought we were talking about the 10,000m here. Sergio’s got 20 seconds on Ehab and the rest haven’t run the distance (according to your links). Plus, Sergio’s now got the national title, beating a field of experienced 10,000m runners—including the current 10K road champ.

    Also, Sergio was in the race where Ehab ran his 10,000m best (according to your link). I’ll leave you to figure out who ran faster.... 😏

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    Buddy said 1 month ago

    http://sportforlife.ca/qualitysport/long-term-athlete-development/

    https://books.google.ca/books/about/Long_Term_Athlete_Development.html?id=BRLpAAAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover&source=kp_read_button&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false





    Quoting: Wailord
    "Tyler Dozzi is 2 years younger and faster than Sergio over 5000m.
    https://www.iaaf.org/athletes/canada/tyler-dozzi-313539

    Dannatt is also 2 years younger and would beat Sergio from 800m+
    https://www.iaaf.org/athletes/canada/charlie-dannatt-315165

    When you compare Sergio to Ehab El Sandali over 5000m it's a no contest. Ehab 13:52 in April 2018 vs Sergio's 14:18 in May 2018

    https://www.iaaf.org/athletes/canada/ehab-el-sandali-294276

    https://www.iaaf.org/athletes/canada/sergio-raez-villanueva-313089

    Last year Sergio ran 3:48 for 1500m being 2 years removed from Highschool. In 2009 2 Sr. Boys Highschool students ran faster at OFSAA. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-AiKNiZsSgM

    So you guys can keep boosting him while I continue to be a realist.
    Sergio is a very talented athlete, and very respectable, but don't try and hype him so much when you are just talking and not stating anything to defend your arguements. It's great he won a big race. Congrats. Hopefully his success continues."

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    Not Trackie said 1 month ago

    Quoting: Wailord
    "And the point you are trying to make is? Since he has such a drive to compete how about I bet all my carrots that Justyn Knight would overlap..."


    Why...WHY do people say OVERLAP. It's just fluffing LAP. I don't get it. 100%. Absolutely. Don't. Get. THAT.

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    Anonymous said 1 month ago

    Quoting: cooperaa
    "Funny; I thought we were talking about the 10,000m here. Sergio’s got 20 seconds on Ehab and the rest haven’t run the distance (according to your links). Plus, Sergio’s now got the national title, beating a field of experienced 10,000m runners—including the current 10K road champ.

    Also, Sergio was in the race where Ehab ran his 10,000m best (according to your link). I’ll leave you to figure out who ran faster.... 😏"



    2X U20 National XC Champ Ehab El Sandali as of June 2018 is faster than Sergio. The link I provided was to compare their 5000m times as of most recently, 2018. Don't compare Sergio 2018 to Ehab 2016. Concentrate on the present.

    So you can say what you want and keep being a cry baby with the rest of the Sergio fan club.
    Stop making Sergio seem like the next big thing. He beat experienced runners which is a great accomplishment. But he didn't beat the cream of the crop in Canadian distance running. Canada has so much more to offer over that distance.

    In my eyes, Sergio won what I consider a fake National title the same way Russia has an Olympic Gold Medal in Men's Hockey this past Winter Olympics, because Canada could not send the NHL players. Sergio winning this title is like Juventus winning Serie B in 06-07. No one cares about Juventus winning Serie B, and no one cares about Russia winning Men's Olympic hockey this past Winter.

    A real National 10,000m title would include Flanagan, Knight, Ahmed, and many more.
    When Sergio beats these guys over that distance as of 2018 moving forward, then you have a say. Otherwise you are shooting a bunch of garbage.

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    The Cheesemaker said 1 month ago

    Quoting: Wailord
    "Tyler Dozzi is 2 years younger and faster than Sergio over 5000m.
    https://www.iaaf.org/athletes/canada/tyler-dozzi-313539

    Dannatt is also 2 years younger and would beat Sergio from 800m+
    https://www.iaaf.org/athletes/canada/charlie-dannatt-315165

    When you compare Sergio to Ehab El Sandali over 5000m it's a no contest. Ehab 13:52 in April 2018 vs Sergio's 14:18 in May 2018

    https://www.iaaf.org/athletes/canada/ehab-el-sandali-294276

    https://www.iaaf.org/athletes/canada/sergio-raez-villanueva-313089

    Last year Sergio ran 3:48 for 1500m being 2 years removed from Highschool. In 2009 2 Sr. Boys Highschool students ran faster at OFSAA. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-AiKNiZsSgM

    So you guys can keep boosting him while I continue to be a realist.
    Sergio is a very talented athlete, and very respectable, but don't try and hype him so much when you are just talking and not stating anything to defend your arguements. It's great he won a big race. Congrats. Hopefully his success continues."


    A "no contest"? I wouldn't be so sure about that. You put those two guys head to head in a 5k it be closer than you'd think, and I'd put money on Sergio outkicking Ehab anyday. Same with Dozzi. As for the 1500, it's hard to say, but the kid spent his childhood chasing down lamas over the hills of Peru. If that doesn't build fast twitch then I'm at a loss for words. He ran that 3:48 in his first and only 1500 of the season while training for the 10k/5k. Not sure why you brought the OFSAA 1500 into this discussion either, not entirely relevant, but did JP Malette ever really improve much after that? Jeremy Rae went on to be successful at the collegiate level but was always a pure miler/1500 guy.

    Anyways "Mr. Realist", not sure who pee'd in your cornflakes this morning but why do you feel the need to bash people bud?

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    Anonymous said 1 month ago

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    "A "no contest"? I wouldn't be so sure about that. You put those two guys head to head in a 5k it be closer than you'd think, and I'd put money on Sergio outkicking Ehab anyday. Same with Dozzi. As for the 1500, it's hard to say, but the kid spent his childhood chasing down lamas over the hills of Peru. If that doesn't build fast twitch then I'm at a loss for words. He ran that 3:48 in his first and only 1500 of the season while training for the 10k/5k. Not sure why you brought the OFSAA 1500 into this discussion either, not entirely relevant, but did JP Malette ever really improve much after that? Jeremy Rae went on to be successful at the collegiate level but was always a pure miler/1500 guy.

    Anyways "Mr. Realist", not sure who pee'd in your cornflakes this morning but why do you feel the need to bash people bud?"


    There is a difference between bashing people, and stating the facts.
    Know the difference and learn to accept it.
    So why doesn't everyone agree with the facts because facts are 100% the truth? A fact remains a fact until proven otherwise. I have said it repeatedly that Sergio is a very talented athlete. But some of you are hyping him to be something that he has not proven to be yet.

    2 facts have been laid out and are as follows

    1. The 10k National Championship did not have the Top 5 Canadian Men over that distance in that race. So although Sergio is crowned the National 10k Champion, he has not proven himself against the best athletes in Canada over that distance, only a small field that could attend the Speed River Inferno meet. Furthermore Sergio has not beaten 2x U20 XC Champ Ehab over 10,000m in 2018.

    2. Ehab El Sandali who is the same age as Sergio has a faster PB time over 5000m as of 2018 by more than :25seconds. This equates to being left behind by over 150m, in a race half the distance. You people can state that if they raced it would be much closer. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and beliefs. Maybe it would be so and maybe Sergio would even win the race between them. But it has not happened in 2018, so go with the factual based evidence. And based on the times, Ehab right now, is the better of the two.

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    Evan Dunfee said 1 month ago

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    Unlike the more technical events (and every event except perhaps the walks is highly technical compared with distance running),."



    1) LOLs
    2) Rolls eyes
    3) Pities Oldster

    I know this is off topic to the original discussion, but there are so many legitimate reasons to hate race walking.

    This isn't one of them.

    I feel like Oldster's high school crush must have been a race walker and rejected him when he asked her to grad. It seems like he just can't get that image of her wiggling her hips on the dance floor with another boy out from its deeply rooted home inside his head and vowed for evermore to take that soul crushing pain he felt on that fateful night out on race walking.

    P.s. before we all inevitably read too much into this thinking, "that story is too vivid to be made up", I am not speaking from personal experience here as I elected to not even ask any girl to grad... for fear of rejection, so HA.... wait, O :(

    (p.p.s even simply hating me is more of a legitimate, and probably widely held, reason to hate race walking vs. claiming that it isn't technical)

    let's bring us back on topic here. J Knight and Mo are awesome

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    Really Am Skuj said 1 month ago

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    Anonymous said 1 month ago

    Just because Sergio doesn't fit your model of national champions who were studs at OFSAA doesn't mean you need to tear him down. Honestly the forum was a much better place for the several months you walked away so do us all a favor and keep your mouth shut.

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    Oldster said 1 month ago

    Quoting: Evan Dunfee
    "1) LOLs
    2) Rolls eyes
    3) Pities Oldster

    I know this is off topic to the original discussion, but there are so many legitimate reasons to hate race walking.

    This isn't one of them.

    I feel like Oldster's high school crush must have been a race walker and rejected him when he asked her to grad. It seems like he just can't get that image of her wiggling her hips on the dance floor with another boy out from its deeply rooted home inside his head and vowed for evermore to take that soul crushing pain he felt on that fateful night out on race walking.

    P.s. before we all inevitably read too much into this thinking, "that story is too vivid to be made up", I am not speaking from personal experience here as I elected to not even ask any girl to grad... for fear of rejection, so HA.... wait, O :(

    (p.p.s even simply hating me is more of a legitimate, and probably widely held, reason to hate race walking vs. claiming that it isn't technical)

    let's bring us back on topic here. J Knight and Mo are awesome"


    Let me just say that that one sentence represents the sum total of my thinking about race walking in at least 2 years. If you say it's technical, then great. It's technical. (As an aside, I generally like non-technical things more than technical ones, so I came close to actually complimenting race walking there!)

    I call a truce around our apparent agreement that "there are so many legitimate reasons to hate race walking".

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    Dozzi said 1 month ago

    Why you gotta bring me into this

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    Really Am Skuj said 1 month ago

    Two things:

    1) My post above was in reaction to a much stranger Dunfee post (before trackie edits).

    2) Nobody has to love every sport. I hate hockey (I know, right?), baseball, basketball, race-walking, and Any Swimming Event That Is Not Freestyle. It's all apples and oranges.

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    Anonymous said 1 month ago

    Quoting: Dozzi
    "Why you gotta bring me into this"


    If this has to be answered maybe you should read it again.

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