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Anonymous said 2 months ago

Removing the term "Midget"

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    offsaahh said 2 months ago

    The timing is perfect for HS to make the move to 2 age cats.

    Junior (9&10)
    Senior (11&12)

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    anonymous said 2 months ago

    I was wondering how long it would take news rooms to find something else to discuss besides the weather.

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    Anonymous said 2 months ago

    Is reply 26 from someone at the school board? This sounds like a new student success strategy! Let's decrease the amount of opportunities for students and say it is because of improving age categories and their titles but hidden within is the ability to cut funding to 1 whole age group across the board in all sports. Thus, saving millions of dollars yearly that we will say is to support student success but really allows boards to promote several more useless superintendents of something and make sure that tracks and other sports related equipment are the first things cut in new school projects, etc.. Not allowing grade 9 students to get their feet wet because of this will lead to diminished athletic opportunities at a critical time that will decrease student participation in all sports over the long term. Doesn't sound right to me or like good common sense so it probably will be adopted unanimously by all boards! They only do things in the best interest of the student after all!

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    Anonymous said 2 months ago

    Quoting: offsaahh
    "The timing is perfect for HS to make the move to 2 age cats.

    Junior (9&10)
    Senior (11&12)"



    Won't happen. With all the hullabaloo of the HS trained vs. club trained divisions last year, one of the main reasons is was voted down was that in XC and T&F there was not enough room in the schedule for the extra races without eliminating the grade 9 division and coaches voted, almost unanimously, to keep the grade 9 division.

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    well said 2 months ago

    There is no grade 9 hockey, basketball, volleyball or football is there?



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    "Is reply 26 from someone at the school board? This sounds like a new student success strategy! Let's decrease the amount of opportunities for students and say it is because of improving age categories and their titles but hidden within is the ability to cut funding to 1 whole age group across the board in all sports. Thus, saving millions of dollars yearly that we will say is to support student success but really allows boards to promote several more useless superintendents of something and make sure that tracks and other sports related equipment are the first things cut in new school projects, etc.. Not allowing grade 9 students to get their feet wet because of this will lead to diminished athletic opportunities at a critical time that will decrease student participation in all sports over the long term. Doesn't sound right to me or like good common sense so it probably will be adopted unanimously by all boards! They only do things in the best interest of the student after all!"

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    Anonymous said 1 month ago

    Quoting: well
    "There is no grade 9 hockey, basketball, volleyball or football is there?"


    I know in our board there are a couple grade 9 girls (no boys that I know of) Volleyball tournaments, although there is no league.

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    let me help you said 1 month ago

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    "Hockey still uses: Atom, PeeWee, Bantam, Midget, Junior, etc."


    Yes.

    And it is the absolutely asinine terminology.

    It is completely arbitrary that something called an "PeeWee" is older or younger than something called a "Bantam" or something called a "Midget." What idiocy.

    For events where age at the time of the meet is the gauge, than obviously U14, U16, U18 work, or 11-12, 13-14, 15-17 (as in swimming), or whatever you want to use.

    For events where age at the beginning of the year is the gauge, call it grade 9 (currently the kids born 2004), grade 10 (currently kids born 2003), grade 11 (currently kids born 2002), grade 12 (currently kids born 2001). The norm is kids enter grade 1 in the calendar year they turn 6. Don't whine to me about "exceptions"; if someone happened to start school early, skip a grade, repeat, their coach etc can ensure they compete according to age and not by grade. It's not hard.

    Just don't put a bunch of random "small and less-small things" words in some made-up sequence. Nothing could be dumber.

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    Anonymous said 1 month ago

    Quoting: let me help you
    "Yes.

    And it is the absolutely asinine terminology.

    It is completely arbitrary that something called an "PeeWee" is older or younger than something called a "Bantam" or something called a "Midget." What idiocy.

    For events where age at the time of the meet is the gauge, than obviously U14, U16, U18 work, or 11-12, 13-14, 15-17 (as in swimming), or whatever you want to use.

    For events where age at the beginning of the year is the gauge, call it grade 9 (currently the kids born 2004), grade 10 (currently kids born 2003), grade 11 (currently kids born 2002), grade 12 (currently kids born 2001). The norm is kids enter grade 1 in the calendar year they turn 6. Don't whine to me about "exceptions"; if someone happened to start school early, skip a grade, repeat, their coach etc can ensure they compete according to age and not by grade. It's not hard.

    Just don't put a bunch of random "small and less-small things" words in some made-up sequence. Nothing could be dumber."


    And yet it has worked well for many years.

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    Anonymous said 1 month ago

    If we change how we refer to age groups it would be a good opportunity to also address gender identity. There are many ways to deal with this, one way could be moving from "girls and boys" to "girls and open". Eligibility to compete in the girls category would need to be carefully defined but basically be biological females. Anyone could compete in open. So open category would include cis males and trans females. Cis females and trans males could compete in either category, but likely trans males would chose to compete in open (as might some cis females - for example to complete a team or just for extra competition. Would need rules that girls records can only be set in girls races, not by girls racing in open races, but that's simple enough).

    Ages and genders would move from more to less restrictive, so that "High School Open" would be for anyone.
    Using current ages we would have:
    Grade 9 girls (born 2004 or earlier, female)
    Grade 9 open (born 2004 or earlier)
    Grade 10 girls (born 2003 or earlier, female)
    Grade 10 open (born 2003 or earlier)
    High School girls (eligible for high school sports, female)
    High School open (anyone eligible for high school sports)

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    Really Am Skuj said 1 month ago

    Quoting: Anonymous
    "And yet it has worked well for many years."


    I just love these "but this is how we have always done it" arguments.

    (I'm smoking a joint right now.)

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    Anonymous said 1 month ago

    Quoting: Really Am Skuj
    "I just love these "but this is how we have always done it" arguments.

    (I'm smoking a joint right now.)"


    That explains a few things

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    Anonymous said 1 month ago

    Quoting: Anonymous
    "And yet it has worked well for many years."


    Having never played hockey, I have absolutely no idea what the age any of the terms refer to or what order they go in. It therefore isn't working well as it isn't intuitive. It also doesn't match that of other sports, such as our own. Minor track goes Peewee, Mite, Tyke, Atom, Senior. Athletics Ontario goes Bantam, Midget, Youth, Junior, Senior. High School is Midget, Junior, Senior.

    Change is a good thing when it leads to simplification and standardization.

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    Really Am Skuj said 1 month ago

    Perhaps my "joint" joke was too subtle. My bad.

    P.S. Things change!! We need to roll with the times. "Midget" for an age group is an abomination in 2019.

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    Anonymous said 1 month ago

    I think in XC a Junior (Grade 9&10) and Senior (Grade 11 & 12) category would work.
    They should all run 5k on the same course, which would make it a good enough standard and for the kids to compare their fitness to some of their competitors.
    But in track and field they need to keep Grade 9 because there is too much of a jump in fitness levels and qualifying standards are a bit more difficult. Often times the majority of Grade 10's are a bit faster than Grade 9's. But not always.

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    Anonymous said 1 month ago

    Just to lighten things up here a bit

    https://youtu.be/mg0UWxhJkfk

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    Anonymous said 1 month ago

    Everyone has turned into a "snowflake" in this society. If all you have to worry about is a "word", you have far too much time on your hands and perhaps should be doing something meaningful with your life.

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    Really Am Skuj said 1 month ago

    Quoting: Anonymous
    "Everyone has turned into a "snowflake" in this society. If all you have to worry about is a "word", you have far too much time on your hands and perhaps should be doing something meaningful with your life."



    ....like posting on a thread about the usage of certain words.

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