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NoOfsaa2018 said 2 months ago

Today's letter from the Ontario Teachers' Federation

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    Brotherhood said 2 months ago

    No teacher, parent or official who is a union brother should cross a picket line! PERIOD!

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    JohnStuartHobbes said 2 months ago

    Quoting: Brotherhood
    "No teacher, parent or official who is a union brother should cross a picket line! PERIOD!"


    Brotherhood of jackasses?

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    Runningman said 2 months ago

    Quoting: JohnStuartHobbes
    "Brotherhood of jackasses?"


    A jackass is a person who puts kid's sports ahead of worker rights.

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    Anonymous said 2 months ago

    High school teachers are not in the same union as the York strikers

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    Venser said 2 months ago

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    "Ah, most professional jobs require you to work overtime, sometimes on the weekend, without extra compensation! It comes with being a salaried employee vs. an hourly wage worker."

    That's illegal unless you agree to do so. Whether you're salaried or paid hourly is irrelevant.

    It is a misconception that salaried employees are not entitled to overtime. There are no provisions in employment standards law that exempts salaried employees from overtime entitlements. In fact, employers that claim salaried employees are not entitled to overtime, either in writing or through an implied contract, would be contracting out of employment standards law. This is prohibited. Overall, method of payment (hourly or set-intervals) is irrelevant in determining overtime entitlements.

    Link to ESA

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    Anonymous said 2 months ago

    Quoting: Venser
    "That's illegal unless you agree to do so. Whether you're salaried or paid hourly is irrelevant.

    It is a misconception that salaried employees are not entitled to overtime. There are no provisions in employment standards law that exempts salaried employees from overtime entitlements. In fact, employers that claim salaried employees are not entitled to overtime, either in writing or through an implied contract, would be contracting out of employment standards law. This is prohibited. Overall, method of payment (hourly or set-intervals) is irrelevant in determining overtime entitlements.

    Link to ESA"




    Didn’t say salaried employees were legally required to work overtime with no compensation; but, any professional taking that attitude won’t get very far in life. Valued employees are usually the ones who work to get the job done, regardless of the hours. And valued teachers are the ones that, among other things, step up and volunteer for extra curriculars because they love what they do,

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    brother said 2 months ago

    Union members support each other regardless of what local they are in.

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    NC Blogger said 2 months ago

    Quoting: brother
    "Union members support each other regardless of what local they are in."


    Union members, just like everyone else, have a brain and SHOULD use their own when deciding who / what to support, and not just follow like sheep because someone "thinks" a certain way.

    In Ottawa a few years back, our union was about as wishy-washy as possible on job action - essentially telling members to do "whatever they see fit." Several teachers took this to be a not so subtle work to rule advisement. Others disagreed. Only about 50% of schools ran teams that fall, although in XC we fared a little better. There were several teachers "told" they couldn't run teams by union bullies at their school. A few of us got some grief, typical from teachers who do absolutely NOTHING in terms of running extra-curriculars.

    Last week of November the union announced province wide work to rule. We went work to rule as directed by the union.

    If the union directs, it is much different than recommending. Our union has specifically said, their request to not cross the picket is a "request" and not a "direction."

    Quit spewing useless one liners with absolutely no substance. By the way, "brother," quit hiding. If your not ashamed of your stance, don't be afraid, but my guess is you are very ashamed, as you've told your kids you can't coach, when you can, you just don't care enough about them.

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    FrustratedObserver said 2 months ago

    Quoting: NC Blogger
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    In Ottawa a few years back, our union was about as wishy-washy as possible on job action - essentially telling members to do "whatever they see fit." Several teachers took this to be a not so subtle work to rule advisement. Others disagreed. Only about 50% of schools ran teams that fall, although in XC we fared a little better. There were several teachers "told" they couldn't run teams by union bullies at their school. A few of us got some grief, typical from teachers who do absolutely NOTHING in terms of running extra-curriculars.
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    In 2012, my final year of high school in East Ottawa, the temporary XC coach (the head coach was on maternity leave) indicated that our school was prohibited from running a team. This was an outright lie. Either he simply lacked the courage to tell me why he, in collaboration with the Athletics director (or under his influence), refused to allow our school to field a team, or he lacked the courage to stand up to other "respected colleagues." I sincerely hope that the current group of affected students do not leave high school with the same rotten taste in their mouths as I did when they think of the OSSTF.

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    Anonymous said 2 months ago

    So, with all this chatter, are the unionized teachers who run OFSAA track actually going to cross the picket line to run it? And are the unionized teachers who coach at high schools actually going to cross the picket line to accompany their athletes? At this point, is it reasonable to think that OFSAA track is still a go?

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    Anonymous said 2 months ago

    York and the Union need to both get their stuff together. I have no problem with striking but they both need to come up with an agreement. Having the third strike in 10 years in unacceptable and not fair to anyone involved. Hopefulyl they solve this. As it relates to OFSAA I'm not a coach but am a part of a non teachers union. I would run my athletes at OFSAA if there was a competiton, no need to hurt the kids for the sake of Yorks professors. If this happens this would be the second time the senior class has gotten their sports taken away by strikes and that is something that just is not right.

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    Anonymous said 2 months ago

    90% of these kids/families are potential York University "customers" right?
    If York effs up OFSAA how many families will send their kids to this School after this fiasco?

    #notme
    #h8yorknow

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    Anonymous said 2 months ago

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    "90% of these kids/families are potential York University "customers" right?
    If York effs up OFSAA how many families will send their kids to this School after this fiasco?
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    Technically it's not York U that is hosting OFSAA. They just happen to own the facility that is being rented by OFSAA (or the LOC).

    Similarly, beyond enforcing trespassing laws, York U has limited control over what their striking employees do, let alone whether non-York U employees (high school teachers) make a decision on whether or not they travel to the York U stadium.

    As far as families making a decision on whether to send their kids to York U (don't the kids themselves have a say in this or are they just sent wherever their families choose?), I would hazard a guess that this strike being the third in a decade and having gone on for several months is a far bigger factor than how OFSAA track goes off.

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    Venser said 2 months ago

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    "Didn’t say salaried employees were legally required to work overtime with no compensation; but, any professional taking that attitude won’t get very far in life. Valued employees are usually the ones who work to get the job done, regardless of the hours. And valued teachers are the ones that, among other things, step up and volunteer for extra curriculars because they love what they do,"

    And valued employers don't assume their employees will work for free.

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    Anonymous said 2 months ago

    I'm sure you know (maybe not) that some kids have 100% say in where they go and others have 0% say

    Example, if both parents went to Queens trust me the kids are going to Queens :)


    Quoting: Anonymous
    "Technically it's not York U that is hosting OFSAA. They just happen to own the facility that is being rented by OFSAA (or the LOC).

    Similarly, beyond enforcing trespassing laws, York U has limited control over what their striking employees do, let alone whether non-York U employees (high school teachers) make a decision on whether or not they travel to the York U stadium.

    As far as families making a decision on whether to send their kids to York U (don't the kids themselves have a say in this or are they just sent wherever their families choose?), I would hazard a guess that this strike being the third in a decade and having gone on for several months is a far bigger factor than how OFSAA track goes off."

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