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Anonymous said 4 days ago

Who is the best Ontario XC Grade 12 Male since 2000?

If you put all these Ontario guys in a XC race in their Grade 12 Senior year over the newer 6000m distance who finishes as your Top 10?

Joe Dionne
Adam Hortian
Matt Loiselle
Henok Lechebo
Mike Woods
Jeremy Fisico
Marcus Dillon
Allan Brett
Matt Leeder
Matt Hughes
Mo Ahmed
Alex Kuternin
Tristan Woodfine
Paul Janikowski
Yves Sikubwabo
Rob Denault
Xavier King
Ben Flanagan
Justyn Knight
Cameron Linscott
Riley Tell
Andrew Shepherd
Ehab El Sandali
Andrew Alexander
Matthew Courtenay
Braydon Clarke
Thomas Witkowicz
Nick Mota
Campbell Lee
Evan Burke
Matt Mason
Scott Arndt
Dakota Goguen

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    boomer said 4 days ago

    hughes, mo, king, Flanagan, knight, el sandali, witkowicz, burke would all make the cut

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    FollowTheLeader said 4 days ago

    Matt Leaeder and the TISS Squad.... BTW whatever happened to the rest of the TISS Crew (Milks, McFall, Smith)

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    nuggets said 4 days ago

    Not from ontario, but probably Tyler Dozzi

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    Anonymous said 4 days ago

    JOE ALL THEY WAY

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    Anonymous said 4 days ago

    Yves & Mo and rest don't matter

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    Anonymous said 4 days ago

    1. Yves - beast and well ahead of the curve in HS
    2. JK - late to the game, but came on strong
    3. Mo - bonze, again (that's twice this year)
    4. Lechebo - massive victory over a couple solid boys, including Woods
    5. Flanagan
    6. Woodfine
    7. Linscott
    8. Dionne
    9. Leeder
    10.Brett

    Curious as to why you picked 2000 (and only Ontario). Also curious as to how you choose people for the list. If they didn't win, I'm not sure they should make your list. You've got guys up here (Woods for example, even though I'm a huge fan) that was 3rd and the guy who beat him, Karanja, is not.

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    PurplePirate said 4 days ago

    Quoting: FollowTheLeader
    "Matt Leaeder and the TISS Squad.... BTW whatever happened to the rest of the TISS Crew (Milks, McFall, Smith)"


    Leeder went to FSU, ran for 3-4 years (ran 13:56) before breaking a bone in his foot due to over racing. Had surgery. Don't know if his foot was ever the same.

    Milks went to North Carolina(?), might have ran a year or two there for them, but he'd already lost a lot of the love for the sport by the end of high school.

    McFall went to Cornell, not sure how much he raced for them, last I saw was a 3:48 maybe 5 years ago now.

    Smith went to Highpoint, and I believe made NCAA's in the steeplechase (8:44). Joined the Guelph crew around 2014-2015 after graduating but only kept training seriously for a year or two.

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    Anonymous said 4 days ago

    Top Contenders:
    Matt Hughes, Mo Ahmed, Ben Flanagan, Justin Knight + (maybe Matt Mason and Scott Arndt).

    Rob Denault and Tristan Woodfine would also be up there.

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    Anonymous said 4 days ago

    Quoting: nuggets
    "Not from ontario, but probably Tyler Dozzi"


    nuggets = BC Bud

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    Anonymous said 4 days ago

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    "1. Yves - beast and well ahead of the curve in HS
    2. JK - late to the game, but came on strong
    3. Mo - bonze, again (that's twice this year)
    4. Lechebo - massive victory over a couple solid boys, including Woods
    5. Flanagan
    6. Woodfine
    7. Linscott
    8. Dionne
    9. Leeder
    10.Brett

    Curious as to why you picked 2000 (and only Ontario). Also curious as to how you choose people for the list. If they didn't win, I'm not sure they should make your list. You've got guys up here (Woods for example, even though I'm a huge fan) that was 3rd and the guy who beat him, Karanja, is not."


    Don't forget Henok Lechebo from the same era - ran sub 29 in grade 12. Destroyed Karanja and Woods at OFSAA in 2003? by over one minute.

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    Anonymous said 4 days ago

    Definitely lechebo. Beat a sub 8 guy by over a minute.

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    Anonymous said 3 days ago

    I believe there were 4 guys fighting it out in 1982 that went on to top 10 at world cross later that school year
    Time to add some legends to the list

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    Anonymous said 3 days ago

    Really appreciate the replies folks.
    Gets people talking. Very unfortunate that many of these guys either stopped due to injuries, lost passion, or other reasons. As for Karanja I wasn't familiar with him but I heard Woods wasn't at his 100% best that day.

    I really think Lechebo at his best in Grade 12 was unbeatable in XC against all these guys regardless of the course. That guy was really something special.

    https://www.gettyimages.ca/detail/news-photo/lechebo_as01-09-30-03-henok-lechebo-ethiopian-distance-news-photo/165310386

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    MJD said 3 days ago

    Quoting: Anonymous
    "I believe there were 4 guys fighting it out in 1982 that went on to top 10 at world cross later that school year
    Time to add some legends to the list"


    1983 had one guy in the top 10 who presumably ran OFSAA in 1982. 1978 had two guys in the top 10 who probably ran OFSAA in 1977. As did 1984. All good team finishes especially 1978 when Earl finished second. Not sure what year you are talking about.

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    historyrunner said 3 days ago

    1983 world jr.s
    17. Brewster
    19. Marc Olesen
    28. Dave Reid
    47. Alain Boucher

    not ontario (obviously):

    31 Paul McCloy
    79 Carey Nelson

    See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1982_IAAF_World_Cross_Country_Championships#Junior_men's_race_(7.926_km)

    I remembered the runners but not the positions --I have a memory that Reid and Brewster were 3 and 4 in world juniors --am I dreaming (Oldster, I'm sure you know from memory). Didn't Ian Clarke win a few years earlier --or am I inflating (again? medal?)

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    historyrunner said 3 days ago

    sorry -that was '82

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    historyrunner said 3 days ago

    okay --was just wrong on Clarke, reid and Brewster finishes --Clarke was 4th in late 70s, Earle was 2nd a few years earlier, Stark 3rd

    Reid was on 4 teams --so was very young for the first one

    so much for my memory

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    historyrunner said 3 days ago

    and women:

    1983 (senior --no junior race):

    1. Grete Waitz Norway 13:29
    2. Alison Wiley Canada 13:37
    3. Tatyana Pozdnyakova Soviet Union 13:37
    4 Joan Benoit United States 13:57

    Steve and other old people out there --correct me if I'm wrong --but Alison Wiley DID NOT win the previous OFSAA ('82) --2nd to Heid Gerum????

    I'll quit with the posts for a bit --sorry about the repetitive postings

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    mauricew said 3 days ago

    Quoting: historyrunner
    "okay --was just wrong on Clarke, reid and Brewster finishes --Clarke was 4th in late 70s, Earle was 2nd a few years earlier, Stark 3rd

    Reid was on 4 teams --so was very young for the first one

    so much for my memory"


    Top 10 Canadian finishers at U20 World Cross Country:

    Rob Earl 2nd, 1978
    John Castellano 3rd, 1984
    Denis Stark 4th, 1980
    Ian Clarke 5th, 1979
    Peter Butler 7th, 1977
    Kevin Dillon 8th, 1978
    Marc Olesen 8th, 1983
    Robert Rice 9th, 1984

    Lisa Harvey 6th, 1989
    Tamara Salomon 6th, 1990

    Dave Reid was on 3 U20/Junior teams, 1981-83.

    http://canadiandistancerunning.com/

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    Anonymous said 3 days ago

    Isn’t this whole thread about “since 2000”.

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    MJD said 3 days ago

    Quoting: mauricew
    "Top 10 Canadian finishers at U20 World Cross Country:

    Rob Earl 2nd, 1978
    John Castellano 3rd, 1984
    Denis Stark 4th, 1980
    Ian Clarke 5th, 1979
    Peter Butler 7th, 1977
    Kevin Dillon 8th, 1978
    Marc Olesen 8th, 1983
    Robert Rice 9th, 1984

    Lisa Harvey 6th, 1989
    Tamara Salomon 6th, 1990

    Dave Reid was on 3 U20/Junior teams, 1981-83.

    http://canadiandistancerunning.com/"



    Sully was on 4. 1990-1993. You have to wonder how many other athletes were on 4 junior teams, period, from anywhere.

    Bairu, Ahmed, Castellano, Andersen, Bunston, Schiebler and Olesen were all on three teams too.

    Three time women team members were:

    Pfister, Doetzel, Mondor, Handley, Butler, Carson, Richards, Korir.

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    Buddy said 3 days ago

    PAY ATTENTION KIDDIES PAY ATTENTION!!!

    Quoting: Anonymous
    "Really appreciate the replies folks.
    Gets people talking. Very unfortunate that many of these guys either stopped due to injuries, lost passion, or other reasons. As for Karanja I wasn't familiar with him but I heard Woods wasn't at his 100% best that day.

    I really think Lechebo at his best in Grade 12 was unbeatable in XC against all these guys regardless of the course. That guy was really something special.

    https://www.gettyimages.ca/detail/news-photo/lechebo_as01-09-30-03-henok-lechebo-ethiopian-distance-news-photo/165310386"

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